============================== Poruka od dv.co.yu!insomia-mod@dv.co.yu Tema: INSOMNIA Digest (96061.4) Sre 12/03/1997 05:19, 26202 chr --------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from ns.beotel.net by SezamPro with SMTP Received: from dv.co.yu (Upedja@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id FAA05130; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:06:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199703120406.FAA05130@hermes.beotel.net> X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Upedja set sender to dv.co.yu!insomia-mod@dv.co.yu using -f Received: dv.co.yu (digest proc); 12 Mar 97 04:35:06 -0800 Date: 12 Mar 97 04:35:06 -0800 From: insomnia@dv.co.yu Reply-To: insomnia@dv.co.yu Subject: INSOMNIA Digest To: insomnia@dv.co.yu INSOMNIA Digest 12 Mar 97 04:35:07 -0800 Today's Topics: : None Re: ode sve u ku...kuruz Re: 'Hell alert' ili 'u strahu su velike oci' Recept za Doktora Kalicanina i Ode sve u qrac prodigy news city -> q nexus->technokro. from prodigy moderisanje future sound of belgrade earth calling dk borisov spot bedzevi Re: [GOA] New Record Reviews Re: Ode sve u qrac protest Re: INSOMNIA Digest Re: INSOMNIA Digest None DJ Terminologija Ovo je digest (zbir dnevne poste) insomnia@dv.co.yu mail liste ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:32:52 +0100 From: Marko Domanovic Subject: None > bizarnosti izmedju ali svakako zesce tripozno, i ne previse brzo. > Videcemo - neka nam je bog u pomoci. svaka njemu cast, bilo je stvarno mracno i na momente bolesno, ali, nazalost na momente i nekako tupavo... Trevor je bio bolji! Pyc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:35:25 -0800 From: Ivan Hrasovec Subject: Re: ode sve u ku...kuruz Mw wrote: > > Aaaaaarggh! Juce na Pinku, u emisiji City podrobno najavljeni Divine > (petak) i DJ Hell (subota) u Industriji...Ode sve u qrac! Pa dobro, sto se Divinea tice, tu je gdjica Lu koja verujem moze uspesno da se nosi sa svima koji su ozbiljno shvatili tu emisiju, a sto se Hell-a tice, primetih samo jednu pojavu koju sam i ranije primecivao i za koju bih predlozio da se uvede neka vrsta zabrane ulaska (cuj neka vrsta, sta neka vrsta, 'nema vise mesta decko' i ajd zdravo). Osim ako se ne obuce malo prikladnije i obeca da nece da se penje na onaj 'podijum' koji stoji na termo-cevima. Radi se o izvesnom bilde(r)u, tipican primerak... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:44:34 -0800 From: Ivan Hrasovec Subject: Re: 'Hell alert' ili 'u strahu su velike oci' From: "Kozmik Communications" > > Tip ima naglasene crte ludila u muzickom izboru; radice 3 sata; maksimalno > se iskulirajte, mislim da nam sledi vrlo, vrlo neobicno iskustvo. Cini mi > se da ce to zvucati kao kombinacija Warlocka i Garniera, sa mnogo > bizarnosti izmedju ali svakako zesce tripozno, i ne previse brzo. Videcemo > - neka nam je bog u pomoci. Pa ne znam. Mozda prizovem u pomoc onu 'da sve zavisi od raspolozenja', ali generalno, ako postoje dobre i lose investicije, ono u subotu je bila losa. Petak mi se mnogo vise dopao... Mislim, nije bilo lose, ali ja nisam nasao nista posebno u svemu onome. Mozda zato sto nisam ni trazio... Nemac jeste veseo, za pohvalu je sto je pustao svasta, ali mislim da predstavlja mnogo veci shock za Nemce nego za nas. U kakvom je on odnosu sa drugom Svenom? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:02:36 +0100 From: Bozo Krstajic Subject: Recept za Doktora Kalicanina i > From: Ivan Hrasovec > A kako da ga pozovemo? Da mu posaljemo digest poruka u > kojima ga pljuvamo, pa da vidimo sta ce da kaze? SumLJam... > Ok, pozovite ga, ali ne verjamem v uspesnost zaklada... Ma nije u pitanju pljuvanje vec samo razmena misljenja, ali o tom potom. Ajde da ga pozovemo, cisto sumnjam da ce hteti, al' ajde..Sad valjda cita mail 2x nedeljno, pa da vidimo... BK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:02:40 +0100 From: Bozo Krstajic Subject: Ode sve u qrac > From: "Integra Productions" > Aaaaaarggh! Juce na Pinku, u emisiji City podrobno najavljeni Divine > (petak) i DJ Hell (subota) u Industriji...Ode sve u qrac! Cuvajte vi ovog Edija u tajnosti :)..Napali Kozmik, omasovljavaju scenu /Farfa, divine, Hell/....ma sta ima veze, neka reklamira i sam djavo ;). nhf BK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:05:49 +0100 From: Bozo Krstajic Subject: prodigy news American gigs: 4/14 - Chicago, Illinois @ Metro 4/17 - Los Angeles, California @ The Mayan Theatre 4/21 - Toronto, Ontario @ The Guvernment 4/22 - New York, NY @ Irving Plaza Spain: The Prodigy will play live at "FESTIMAD" (Madrid, Spain, 2-3 April) It is a two day festival (the price: 9500 pts, aprox. 70-80$) Goss: Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron could be a surprise guest on the new long-awaited new album from the Prodigy. When the two bands shared the bill on the recent mega Australian tour Big Day Out, Prodge whizzkid computer/keyboard bloke Liam Howlett was so impressed with Cameron's tub thumping that he arranged to sample him one night, with the Soundgarden skinbasher's full approval. There's no word yet on whether Cameron's samples will actually make it onot the follow-up to the Prodigy's huge selling 'Music for the Jilted Generation'. More goss: The Prodigy refused the five million $ deal with the American label Maverick and signed only a 2.3 deal. They don't want to become America's Superstars. Liam Howlett: "That's shit and costs too much money." Prodigy Underground '97 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:19:43 +0100 From: Bojan Belovic Subject: city -> q > Aaaaaarggh! Juce na Pinku, u emisiji City podrobno najavljeni Divine > (petak) i DJ Hell (subota) u Industriji...Ode sve u qrac! ax, na zalost, nista novo. koliko cujem/vidim ovo za hella je jos koliko-toliko izuzetak, ali petkove, ili ti divine/percussivo vec manje vise redovno najavljuju (valjda :)) Sima ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:10 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: nexus->technokro. dk vec duze vreme prica kako su pomenuti momci clanovi techn.k. ali to je pricao i za slavku i za mnoge druge... ako dragon prati ovo mogao bi da pita ferdia direktno pa da nam kaze... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:14 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: from prodigy ## From: Prodigy Information ## ---------------------------------- ## Gigs: ## ## Prodigy have been confirmed to play the V97 festival in Leeds and ## Chelmsford and Aug 16th/17th respectively alongside headliners Blur, ## Kula shaker and Ash ## ## ---------------------------------- ## Collaborations: ## ## Liam has decided to put his collaboration with Skin from Skunk ## Anansi on a single release possibly with MineFields, to coincide with ## the release of the album. The Kula Shaker track will make the album, ## as will 'Diesel Power', with lyrics and vocals by Kool Keith, ## aka Mo'Wax's Doctor Octagon. L7's song "Fuel My Fire" which has vocals ## by Saffron from Republica is currently being remixed by Kris Needs ## as Liam was not totally satisfied with it. ## ## Liam had intended doing a track with Bono from U2 but Bono was too ## busy completing "Pop" and asked if Liam would remix "Discotheque", but ## Liam was also too busy. A future collaboration however is not out of ## the question as the band are also supporting them in the US. ## ## ------------------------ ## Misc: ## Does anybody have the video release that accompanies XL First ## Chapter? It was released Christmas 1992, has a black cover and ## features the Fire video. ## ## Thanks to everyone who returned the questionanire, currently over 25% ## replied, so I have about 250 to wade through, and they're still coming ## in! (Won't choose winners until the responses dry up) ## ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:17 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: moderisanje ## Postoji i mogucnost da mastermind pocne i bukvalno da moderise ## listu, taj da se sve poruke salju njemu a na listi se pojavljuju ## samo one koje on odabere. Poruke ce ici malo sporije, ali ce zato ## sum biti sveden na prakticnu nulu. ovo bi bilo vrlo gadno s obzrom na moje slobodno vreme, poruke bi kasnile i po godinu dana :))) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:19 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: future sound of belgrade u nishu sam se susreo sa jednom zanimljivom licnoscu koja tvrdi da izlazi u omen utorkom. since niko od nas izgleda da nije bio na doticnoj tehnokratijinoj vjecheri, red je da obavestim ljude da mi je pomenuta osoba pricala sve najpozitivnije o datom dogadjaju, da je omen uvek prepun, da je ulaz besplatan, da je muzika strawa i da nije 'sedeci' klub vec da se aktivno igra uz ostatak standardne ekipe iz industrije ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:21 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: earth calling dk ## Ja sam za to da pozovemo DK-a. Pravo da vam kazem, nekoliko puta sam ## pokusao da gledam njegove emisije i cak pa neka ga neko pozove vec jednom... kao sto rekoh, jos bi bilje bilo da je i on tu da cujemo sta ima da kaze u odbranu ('ja sam samo pos'o tetki da odnesem lek...') ## Takodje mislim da treba da budemo koliko toliko blagonakloni prema ## njemu, da bismo uopste uspeli da mu nesto kazemo. Dakle, kritika, ali ## konstruktivna, a ne pljuvanje... malo je bezveze ocekivati blagonaklonu kritiku prema njemu, zar ne ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:24 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: borisov spot gledao sam borisov spot za insulin i nisam preterano odisevljen... ako se nisam nesto zajebo, onda je sima radio spot, kaj ne ? :) moje misljenje je da u principu ne treba meshati animacije/snimke jer malo je spotova koji su uspeli sa takvim mixupom (npr.FSOL:my kongdom) ali to je radjeno na opremi koju niko od nas nece uspeti da dodirne sem na sajmu technike :) za pocetak je dobro, cak mnogo bolje od spotova nekih velikih hitova :) domace top liste... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:26:27 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: bedzevi Hi. evo mene opet sa konstruktivnim predlogom. sta mislite o ideji da napravimo insomnia bedzeve? i ako ste za to, sta da pishe na bedzevima? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:58:01 +0000 From: flatline@mail.dnai.com Subject: Re: [GOA] New Record Reviews Anyone want to second these opionions and maybe mention which of the good ones might be available on CD. I really want to get some new goa trance and the stuff I have is all several years old. Thanks, Eric > Prana - Geomantik > A nice quadruple vinyl album with 4 new Prana songs as well as 4 remixes > of older Prana tunes. Extremely innovative and cutting-edge. I really like > the Tristan + Process remix with the guitars (anything else like this?) > 8.5/10 > > Dream Logic - Mistral / Pilgrims of the Mind - Who.Is.That? > Fun psychedelic house! This 12" is a nice change of pace from the full-on > goa sound. I hope that I can find more music of this genre. > 7.8/10 > > Taran-Te - Blasphemix Yonal > You can definately hear the influences from this group's former Death > Metal self. Coming from an industrial fan, I like it! Also on this 12", an > evil circus music song ala Gamma Goblins. > 8/10 > > Psychedelic Krembo - Selected Tunes Part 1 > 2 amazing tracks from Alphanaut here! Get it! A song from Ree K as well. > And, also, a massive song called Talamasca by Jungle Storm that gets me > jumping everytime I hear it. > 8.4/10 > > Symbiosis Records - Funk > First impressions: A funky, trippy, techno influenced album. > Innovative and creative. Some of it could be classified as minimal > psychedelic. > 8/10 > > Space Tribe - Ultrasonic Heartbeat > This was released a while back but I just picked it up. Not so noisy > psy-trance, very journey-like. Songs are Ultrasonic Heartbeat, Cicadas on > DMT, and Tantra Mantra. The song titles are accurate descriptions of the > songs themselves. I love Space Tribe! > 8.2/10 > > Eat Static - Hybrid > I picked up both 12" versions of this incredible song. Every remix is > good, I especially like the psychedelic drum and bass mix! (That's why I > bought it) 8/10 > > Quantum Trigger - 900 Year Cycle / Surreal Trigger > Acid Trance that borders on Psy-Trance. Beautiful synths in this one and > it will find its way into more than a few mixes. > 7.5/10 > > 2nd Day After - 303 Heaven > Acid Trance/Hard Acid. This one has some fast and crazy acid lines in it. > 6.5/10 > > Laughing Budda - Karma > Full on goa madness!! > 8.7/10 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:12:47 +0100 From: Vladimir Vacic Subject: Re: Ode sve u qrac Integra Productions wrote: > Aaaaaarggh! Juce na Pinku, u emisiji City podrobno najavljeni Divine > (petak) i DJ Hell (subota) u Industriji... Ode sve u qrac! Za petak pojma nemam, ali u subotu je bilo sasvim pristojno drustvo, nije bila guzva, muzika je bila jaaaakooo dobra, jedino mi je isao na nerve onaj debil zamasne tezine, koji se popeo gore na cevi, i poceo kao nesto da se pogubljuje. Kada se i ona, ona, ona .... popela gore do njega, i dala mu podrsku, vec sam poceo da razmisljam o cinjenici da je veliki sank povezan sa skladistem, a ovaj sa Plato pubom, a ovaj sa Filozofskim, u slucaju nekog pucanja. O:) Elem, sve pohvale Kozmiku. Btw, sta mu dodje onaj percusivo gothic? Blaga promena muzike ka gothicu? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:07:20 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: protest Protestujem protiv digesta! Zasto oni koji nemaju problem sa kolicinom maila ne mogu da primaju poruke kao ranije? Da li je problem samo kolicina maila ili je namera da se zakomplikuje komunikacija? Ne zaboravite da smo iz mnogih glupih diskusija izvlacili i po neki pametan zakljucak. Gordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:00:24 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: INSOMNIA Digest > Pa, dobro, mozda sam se zezao za strobove O:) > Btw, da li postoje druge prepreke za zurku ili da je vec najavljujemo !? Pa naravno da postoje, kako to mislis da u sred grada celu noc drzis budne tolike ljude, mislim, stanare. > A inace "Higher State..." je proglasen za > najbolji singl prosle godine po najrenomiranijem magazinu Muzik, ako se ne > varam... Sve te liste su glupe i relativne; ni Muzik nije izuzetak; ionako su najbolje novine Jockey Slut i nemacki Groove! > > > 5 - Zmija :) > > Kakav bre Zmija? Ma jel' ZMIJA? Nije ZMIJA nego Z.mix > > A ako budes pitao Kalicanina, on ce ti nabrojati i Slavku i Banyana i > > BP-a i ko zna sta jos sve ne. > > Neshto mi se chini da mi je on to i rekao za slavku ;) Poslednja zrtva njegovih teritorijalnih pretenzija je Boris Petrovic. Saucesce. > Vi se zalazete za education&entertainment, prosirivanje citave scene, > a nadam se da ste svesni da bi za prosirivanje scene, na techno morao > da se nalozi jos veci broj dizelasa, a i vi ste rekli da ih ne > podnosite. Kakav je uopste smisao e&e-a, kad znamo koliko ljudi koji > dolaze na zurke znaju o cemu se zapravo radi? Stvaranje UG scene? > Sta je u stvari vas cilj, cemu stremite i sl? O:) Da li ste nekad > razmisljali o tome da napravite emisiju posvecenu technu? Mislim, > vidite sta sve ne valja kod Kalicanina, znate kako bi to trebalo da > izgleda, i sta treba vise? Sada je i Studio B slobodan, pa zasto se > nesto ne bi uradilo na tom polju? Pa je na znam, ako je ovaj odgovor upucen meni jer sam ja pomenuo taj e&e, onda ja mogu da kazem da jos nisam ovladao genetskom metodom deobe ljudskog tela na vise istovetnih jedinki koje mogu da funkcionisu u isto vreme na razlicitm mestima. Mene ne zanima da se bavim tv-om. Moje zalaganje za omasovljenje scene je samo nada da bi se tako mogao povecati broj ljudi koji nisu u tehnu samo zato sto je to trend. Nazalost, mnogi iz tzv stare ekipe su se pokazali takvim a oni koji nisu, skrenuli su duhom i telom na stranputica pakla :). Ja naivno verujem da je mozda veca verovatnoca da se od 5000 ljudi nadje 500 koji znaju zasto su tu gde su, nego sto je to slucaj sa 2000 ljudi. BTW, trebali ste da vidite kakva je ekipa bila na divajnu u petak, kad je lunalu sprovodila torturu na vratima. Dizela ni od korova. > Pa... jel jeste ustvari ? > Poshto sam nachuo da je na radiu pushtao mixove raznih stranih dj-eva... > P.S. Najchudnije je to shto pricha jedno 10 min i za to vreme u pozadini > ide prelaz sa jedne na drugu pesmu ;> Sule je genije, cudo od coveka, sve radnje radi, prica, miksuje ko Carl Cox. Ubicu ga za pare koje nam duguje. Prodali smo mu Children od R.Majlsa a on je to uvalio Eyeu i pare potrosio na dop. Sad se kao izlecio. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:30:06 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: INSOMNIA Digest > Sto se tice mesta, meni je odmah na pamet palo jedno skloniste ovde > kod mene /gradska-starless-sqpst reyon/, ali bi tu verovatno bila > frka zbg murije koje okolo ima koliko 'oces, a i zgrada je puna ljudi, > koji bi verovatno digli dzevu cak iako bi platili prostor...inace, > dole je do jaja, ima dosta betonskih soba, niska je tavanica, mozda je > frka malo za ventilaciju....ajde da cujem vas! :) Javi se pa da to pogledamo. Gordan > Dobio sam flajer za ovaj parti, pa me zanima da li moze neko da mi napise > nesto vise o istom? Na flajeru ne pise ni ko ga organizuje, a zanimalo bi > me i posto je upad? Lords of Acid organizuje klub, dakle Industria. Upad je 5/10/15 din (clanska/flyer/bez). > > Boax, mislim da sam najzad skapirao Gordanovu taktiku... > > znaci, da bismo imali underground scenu, strashne zurke, mora prvo da > > se oformi velika manje-vise komercijalna scena, sa velikim dogadjajima... > > > > jel to otprilike poenta, tj. da li si to pokusavao sve vreme da objasnis? > > O:) > > pa to onda znaci da kale ne radi nista lose O;))) Ej, ne znam vise sta sam pokusavao da vam objasnim. Samo sam hteo da kazem - veca scena, vise para - bolje undrgrnd zurke. Ne zbog para koje neko treba da zaradi, nego zbog publike, opreme, mogucnosti itd. DK radi lose utoliko sto monopolise emisiju drzavne televizije za koju svi placaju pretplatu u korist svojih privatnih projekata. Na sve ostalo u principu ima pravo. Gordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 23:19:16 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: None more prodigy infoa ## Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron could be a surprise guest on the new ## long-awaited new album from the Prodigy. When the two bands shared the ## bill on the recent mega Australian tour Big Day Out, Prodge whizzkid ## computer/keyboard bloke Liam Howlett was so impressed with Cameron's ## tub thumping that he arranged to sample him one night, with the ## Soundgarden skinbasher's full approval. There's no word yet on whether ## Cameron's samples will actually make it onot the follow-up to the ## Prodigy's huge selling 'Music for the Jilted Generation'. & opet ## The Prodigy refused the five million $ deal with the American label ## Maverick and signed only a 2.3 deal. They don't want to become ## America's Superstars. Liam Howlett: "That's shit and costs too much ## money." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:44:15 -0500 From: syco@nc.edu Subject: DJ Terminologija Evo malo obuke narode :) Terminology ~~~~~~~~~~~ Before we can even get to the interesting stuff, we all have to be speaking the same language. Here are a few terms you should know to communicate with other DJs effectively... Pitch control - The ability of a device to change the tempo of a song. This is very important if you are beatmixing. Pitch lock - The ability of a device to change the tempo of a song, without changing the pitch. This lets you drastically speed up songs with vocals without a "chipmunk" effect. Pitch bend - The temporary changing of pitch to get beats in phase. Vinyl DJs typically use their fingers to speed up or slow down the record by pushing/pulling the record by the label. Some twist the spindle in the center to change the pitch momentarily. CD players offer this as buttons. Once the DJ stops bending the pitch, the decks will automatically snap back to the current pitch control settings. This is necessary since its possible for two songs to be playing at the exact same tempo yet have their beats out of phase. By bending the pitch momentarily, the beats come into phase and the DJ doesn't have to worry about readjusting the pitch control. Tempo - The speed of a song. Usually measured in Beats Per Minute (BPM). Mixers - The essence of a mixer is that it can combine two or more audio signals into one output signal. It should be noted though that most mixers can do much more than just combine signals. Turntables (alias: TT's) - The proper term for a "record player." Now -- if you ever hear anyone say the "rec.. player" term again, you must take the time to either severely hurt them or educate them. Whichever you deem appropriate. Beats Per Minute (BPM) - The number of beats during one minute of a song. An identifier of a song's tempo. Cueing - Using your headphones to find the spot you want to start the next song. Throwing - Giving a record a little push when it starts up so you don't have any lag time while it gets up to speed. CD players do this by featuring instant start. (normal CD players may take a few tenths of a second before a song starts) Throwing a record nulls the lag time while it accelerates from zero to 33ish RPM. It sounds silly at first but it is actually very critical for beatmixing. (see below) Cross fader (alias: x-fader, fader) - A slider control which moves from one input channel to another in a very smooth fashion. The volume on each channel is inversely proportional to each other, so if the x-fader is completely on the left side, you will only hear the input for that channel. Once you start moving it to the right, you will gradually hear the right channel becoming louder. When the x-fader is in the middle, each channel will be of equal volume. As the x-fader continues to the right, the right channel will approach full volume, and the left channel will diminish. Beatmixing (alias: beat matching, beat synching, hot mixing, mixing) The art of bringing the beats of two different songs into phase with one another and fading across. For example, if the song the crowd is hearing is 130 BPM, and the next song you want to play is 132 -- you slow the second song down to 130 bpm using pitch control, and cue it up to the beat. When you are ready to bring the second song into play, throw the record so the beats stay aligned and listen to it on your headphones. MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN SYNC!!! Once you are sure things are in order, use your cross fader to let the new song blend into the old one, and eventually go completely across so only the new song is playing. This will give the illusion that the song never ended. Once you get the hang of getting beats into sync, you will quickly find many more interesting ways to fade in and out of songs. Decks - A very generalized description of gear used by a DJ to play music. Most often referred to turntables and CD players. Vinyl (alias: records, wax, 12" (reference to LP), 7" (reference to single)) - If you aren't clear on what a record is, then this probabl y isn't the sort of thing you should be doing... Ko hoce vise informacija, pali na http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah/ammdj_faq.html skr ------------------------------ End of INSOMNIA Digest ********************************************** +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ insomnia@dv.co.yu, mail list +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------------------------------------------------- 96061.4 --