Received: from dv.co.yu (Upedja@localhost) by hermes.beotel.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id GAA07830; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 06:52:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199703230552.GAA07830@hermes.beotel.net> X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.beotel.net: Upedja set sender to dv.co.yu!insomnia-mod@dv.co.yu using -f Received: dv.co.yu (digest proc); 23 Mar 97 04:36:05 -0800 Date: 23 Mar 97 04:36:05 -0800 From: insomnia@dv.co.yu Reply-To: insomnia@dv.co.yu Subject: INSOMNIA Digest To: insomnia@dv.co.yu INSOMNIA Digest 23 Mar 97 04:36:05 -0800 Today's Topics: : sezam prodigy nfo None prozivka ;) drama guerilla raves at vancouver None Prod. O-L Vlada Flash :) GOA equipa zadnja shetnja Uk-Dance FWDs Re: None Re: None None Eddy Airbow @ Belgrade Re: None Re: news, yeee :) Re: DJ Kragujevac Re: svi oni a njega nema... None Re: Divne police test1 hi None None None domen None None Re: None Re: None Re: DJ Kragujevac Re: Vlada Flash :) Re: None do you see the light prodigy news phasing & flanging G.R.I.D. obnovljen History of Cyberspace Re: drama Re: Re:goa Re: INSOMNIA Digest Propast None Ovo je digest (zbir dnevne poste) insomnia@dv.co.yu mail liste ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Mar 97 15:10:14 GMT From: pedja@rpku.dv.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: sezam ma> From: Bojan Belovic ma> nego, sad sam ustanovio da mi je u ovom naletu digesta ma> (zaostalih), posta (insomnia) dolazila totalno haoticno - prvo reply, ma> pa original poruka u nekim slucajevima ? u cemu je 4a ? Stiglo mi je preko 120k maila za insomniu pa sam pokusao rucno da podelim u manje digeste, jer, kako cujem, Sezam pravi probleme ako je poruka predugacka. Trudio sam se da poruke budu slozene po redu pristizanja, ali izgleda da mi bas i nije uspelo? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:25:45 +0100 From: Bozo Krstajic Subject: prodigy nfo Keith is going to play in a horror movie called "Horror Avenue"Madonna has approached the Prodigy to make a remix for her, but theyrefused the offer. Liam said" She maybe be our boss, but I'm not goingto make a mix for Madonna!"Prodigy Underground FTP server possibly inaccessable this weekend dueto maintenance. Apologies. Prodigy Underground '97 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:53:35 +0100 From: Bozo Krstajic Subject: None Svi znnamo da je termin nekadasnjeg Superboostera pripao Gasi&Smaji /rom i ram/. Novost je da ce se ubuduce utorkom od 21-22 na istom tom radiju emitovati jedna nova emisija. Radice je Nikola Cosic /NI/ i to ce biti 'druga tehnokratijina radio-emisija'. Xa! p.s. ovo sam cuo na vj tehno. BK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:01:39 +0100 From: vanja Subject: prozivka ;) ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC363B.FD038D10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bozo Krstajic Sent: =E8etvrtak 20, mart 1997 13:56 A fino da smo dobili neke nove clanove, mogli su da se jave kad su vec pristigli. vjov@unsux.ns.ac.yu :) vjov je sad valent@uns... a kao vjov se javio (ili bolje da kazem: = javila :) ) jednom :) Al evo, ako treba zvanicno ;)) Zdravi mi svi i veseli bili, i mi zajedno zurkovali :) ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC363B.FD038D10 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ig0UAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA4gQAAAAAAADmAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAMAEAAAEAAAAMAAAAAwAAMAQAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAUQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAE11bHRpcGxlIHJlY2lw aWVudHMgb2YgRGVtbyBHcm91cABTTVRQAGluc29tbmlhQGR2LmNvLnl1AAAAAB4AAjABAAAABQAA AFNNVFAAAAAAHgADMAEAAAASAAAAaW5zb21uaWFAZHYuY28ueXUAAAADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAA HgABMAEAAAAkAAAAJ011bHRpcGxlIHJlY2lwaWVudHMgb2YgRGVtbyBHcm91cCcAAgELMAEAAAAX AAAAU01UUDpJTlNPTU5JQUBEVi5DTy5ZVQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAABAAAAAAA AATKOgEEgAEADAAAAHByb3ppdmthIDspAPoDAQWAAwAOAAAAzQcDABUAFQABACcABQAuAQEggAMA DgAAAM0HAwAVABUAAQAnAAUALgEBCYABACEAAAAxQ0E2NUZDMUQ4QTFEMDExQjgzOThFM0Q5RDAw MDAwMAAVBwEDkAYAhAMAABQAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADAC4AAAAAAAMANgAA AAAAQAA5AGCRMrAyNrwBHgBwAAEAAAAMAAAAcHJveml2a2EgOykAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAbw2MrAt urOla6IlEdC4OY49nQAAAAAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABQAAAB2YWxlbnRA dW5zLm5zLmFjLnl1AAMABhBJC5JIAwAHEAkBAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABGUk9NOkJPWk9LUlNUQUpJ Q1NFTlQ66EVUVlJUQUsyMCxNQVJUMTk5NzEzOjU2QUZJTk9EQVNNT0RPQklMSU5FS0VOT1ZFQ0xB Tk9WRSxNT0dMSVNVREFTRUpBVkVLQURTVVZFAAAAAAIBCRABAAAACgIAAAYCAACHAwAATFpGdf4k 6wP/AAoBDwIVAqQD5AXrAoMAUBMDVAIAY2gKwHNldO4yBgAGwwKDMgPGBxMCgxIzEw9mNA96aGVs 0QMgRGxnAoB9CoAIz8UJ2TsXnzI1NQKACoGDDbELYG5nMTAzFCBBCwNsaTE4MALRafAtMTQ0DfAM 0BwDC1nUMTYMIXADYHQFkAVAekYDYToK4RzbHcYMgiDAQm96byBLEeABkPhqaWMKhxzfHeQGYAIw Qx6PH5tcJ2U4EgB2kQAgYWsgAdAsIADAQQAgIDE5OTcmkDOYOjU2CosbYDM2HKefFCIMAR3GCoUK hUEgG9DCbiCQZGEgcwRgKxAEb2IDEGkgbmVr0mUr8G92LDBjGoEsYckmMW9nK9FzdSsTLDCMamEs cAqFa2FkLYKZLHBjIB3ABAB0aS1Rki4p3HZqLGBAdQCAKHV4LgCALgDQLnnedQqPC5ES8gwBYwBA KcZcOikw8y4QLDBzLuF21wdAI0ExQi42ICArMC7Q1yCQNMMt9GkgkCgrwgbh5zURKyEu0HplHnE3 Qgtg1zSCNKA1EGQq8G00gSndcQMgZXZvJjAl4CCQdLUXoGIrMHo1gAMAYyrxxDspOj1aZHI3USZA /y1xPiEr4CxwEfA3wivBJjD9PjN6IPA5wjwwCHA7sDWBfyvgOi4nTxynM3UpXRbBAAFFYAAAAwAQ EAAAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzBAK5sL5jW8AUAACDBgkTKwMja8AR4APQABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAADAA00 /TcAACXr ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC363B.FD038D10-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:21:52 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: drama ## From: "Kozmik Communications" ## posebne promocije i bez VJ Teknoa; drama nastupa tek od sredine maja, ## cenim. u kom smislu drama? a sto se tice promocije, pa zar vam nisu dovoljni flyere koje cete da podelite u industriji i malo reqlame po vasim radijima i recimu na 'u trendu' to je bash cool emisija :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:22:00 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: guerilla ## Dakle, gerila, organizacija,solidarnost, Tupak Amaru; na sledecu ## yugo@ zabavu svi ispred Industrije pa maltretirajte magarce koji idu ne covece... P.L.U.R. ono sto on usere i onako nam ne treba.... underground defence line je uvek postojala i uvek ce postojati. cak i da napravi www.techno.co.yu imacemo mi nash sajt koji ce biti bolji. na radiju vec postoje bolje emisije, zao mi je samo sto ne ma bolje TV emisije na podrucju cele srbije. a najzalije mi je sto nista ne mogu da ucinim po tom pitanju :))) ako neko moze to da radi, bilo bi strava :) ali i ovako je OK. on neka kenja sta hoce preko TVa, mi cemo da ojacamo elektronske veze sa ljudima. sirite insomniju na sve strane :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:22:13 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: raves at vancouver WARNING... FORWARD CHARSHAW! sve replyove na poslato pismo slati na xtc@nightly.com koji ce skupiti replyove iz celog sveta i poslati motherfuckerima :) ## >From: Creator@islandnet.com (Matt Elrod) ## >To: xtc@nightly.com ## >Subject: Raves have police worried ## >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:57:24 -0800 ## >Lines: 161 ## > ## >The Vancouver Echo ## > ## >LTE: editor@vanecho.com ## > ## > RAVE nation ## > ## > Warehouse parties are a fast-growing part of youth culture - and ## one that ## ## ## > has police worried. ## > ## > By KAREN HOLLOWAY, Contributing writer ## > ## > Swaying back and forth with her eyes shut, a 19-year-old woman ## > waves her arms around her waist in a slow, hypnotic motion. Dressed ## > in tight black bell-bottom pants, her neon green shirt is ## > emblazoned with the word "Pornstar." A pair of yellow sunglasses ## > rests on the top of her head, and on her left wrist she wears an ## > electric bracelet flashing with points of red light. Colourful ## > swirling lights dance around the room and the throbbing music ## > shakes the floor. ## > ## > Kathy, a BCIT student, spends her weekends dancing at raves to ## > escape the real world and delve into a magical fairytale world. ## > ## > "Raves are a place to get away from normal cultural affairs. There's ## > good music and good social atmosphere," she said. ## > ## > In Vancouver, a battle is raging between the city's rave promoters ## > and the authorities, who continue to shut down raves every weekend. ## > ## > Raves are part of a youth movement that surfaced in England about ## > six years ago and has been slowly gaining popularity in British ## > Columbia. They are only advertised through glossy-coloured flyers ## > found in downtown cafes and record stores such as Bassix and ## > Odyssey Imports. ## > ## > Held in secret locations, most commonly at warehouses in the ## > Downtown Eastside, raves can attract as many as 3,000 people. The ## > parties often carry on until seven or eight o'clock in the morning. ## > ## > Raves are driven by the pulsing beat of techno or house music ## > which combines electronic dance music, drums and synthesizers to ## > a fast-paced rhythm. The music has no words, and the stereo ## > systems sport industrial strength woofers loud enough to alter your ## > heartbeat. ## > ## > The Vancouver police and fire department are concerned the rave ## > parties pose safety hazards to the public. "They are a huge ongoing ## > problem," said Const. Anne Drennan. ## > ## > "Rave parties are being held in abandoned warehouses. They have no ## > permits for the liquor being sold, there's drugs, there are no age ## > limits. Parents don't know where their kids are," she added. ## > ## > Vancouver Fire Chief Stuart Affleck said most of the warehouses ## > have no sprinkler system, no fire alarms, no early warning and no ## > fire extinguishers. Exits are frequently blockaded to discourage ## > unticketed guests. "To have a rave party, they're selling alcohol ## > that's illegal and normally there's a lot of drugs that's going ## > around ... so [promoters] have to have them in places that are put ## > together very quickly and they don't have to put any money into ## > them so they can leave if they get busted," said Affleck. ## > ## > "The large majority of [ravers] are in kind of tinderboxes. ## > If anything happens, you have hundreds of people who can't get ## > out," he added. "The people running them are unscrupulous and they ## > just pack as many people into the area as they have." ## > ## > Const. Ron Fairweather cited other health issues. ## > ## > "As far as washrooms, there's usually maybe one or two, and when ## > you've got 400 plus people going to the party, there are people ## > urinating in alleys or in cars," he said. ## > ## > Drennan said Vancouver police have been shutting down raves every ## > weekend and even on the occasional weeknight. The police find out ## > about the parties through noise complaints. ## > ## > But ravers say the police are not giving raves a chance, even though ## > promoters are taking steps to make the parties safer. Vancouver rave ## > promoter Mark said his company brings in security to do searches, an ## > ambulance crew, extra toilets and rents a shuttle service so people ## > don't have to drive. ## > ## > "We keep everyone contained in one area. If someone gets too hot, ## > there's an ambulance crew right there," he said. ## > ## > And the belief that alcohol is sold at raves is a misconception, ## > added Mark. ## > ## > "[Ravers] don't want to have to put up with any obnoxious drunks," ## > he said. ## > ## > Jordan, another Vancouver promoter, agreed. ## > ## > "It's not part of the rave culture to drink alcohol at a party," he ## > said. "[Police] seem to think all kinds of weird things ... It's the ## > old fart mentality - they're scared of anything that's new." ## > ## > Jordan admitted drugs are found at raves, but they are found ## > wherever young people gather. ## > ## > "There are more people high at the laser light show at the ## > Planetarium and they run that," he said. ## > ## > "Drugs are sold in the movie theatre. You can walk down ## > Granville Street and get more drugs in the daytime than you can ## > anywhere else," he added. "People are going to do drugs if they go ## > to a mall or a rave." ## > ## > Jordan says police enforcement is forcing raves into underground ## > locations. ## > ## > "It'd be great to hold a rave in a place like Science World, but ## > it's the police's fault. If we could do this in a legal forum ## > without the police coming and hassling us, then sure we'd rent ## > Science World," Jordan said. "It's just that a warehouse is the ## > only place you can do something like this." ## > ## > Vancouver's rave trend has been spreading outwards to Burnaby ## > and Richmond, where city officials and fire chief have channeled a ## > way for raves to go on, explained Mark. ## > ## > "Basically we've got to get the city of Vancouver to give us a route ## > to get a permit. Every permit that exists so far only lasts until 2 ## > o'clock," he said. ## > ## > Daniel Richler, host of CBC's The Big Life, said parents and ## > authorities don't understand the culture of the rave nation. ## > ## > "Parents forget ... What did they do? Also, if you compare raves to ## > other public outings like football games or heavy metal concerts, ## > you'll find much more peaceful scenes," he explained. ## > ## > "For example, women who are out at 3 o'clock in the morning ## > actually feel safe. Discos and bars downtown [Toronto] are meat ## > markets. Raves don't have the same predatory feeling." ## > ## > The attraction to raves is the "peace, love, happiness," ## > hippie-mantra atmosphere. ## > ## > "The positive energy travels around in circles like a rock dropped ## > in the water," explained Mark. ## > ## > Jordan said in the five years he has been raving, he has never seen ## > a fight at a party. ## > ## > "People are quite content with what's going on and they're there ## > for a reason. They're not there to pick a fight. People who want to ## > pick a fight tend to go to hip-hop concerts or rock shows ... ## > that's the mentality that follows," he said. ## > ## > Jordan predicts raves will soon become part of mainstream culture. ## > ## > "It's going to be big. It's going to be one of the next pop-culture ## > subcultures," he said. ## > ## > And Kathy said the rebellious popularity of underground parties will ## > never completely go away. ## > ## > "I think that late night parties will never die. That label 'rave' ## > and that particular music might fade away, but the phenomena of ## > renting a warehouse and throwing a million people in it is too cool ## > to fade away," she said. ## > ## ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:22:21 +0100 From: Dragisa Mitrovic Subject: None While E. Coyotie strikes again: Nagaovoriti DK-a da svake subote pravi YU:GO@ partije,ali u XL-u !!!! => Industria ostaje slobodna za OK people !!!! Yeah,nije li ingenijozno,samo kako ga nagovoriti na taj potez ??? Da mu shaljemo pisma sa predlozima,da mu kazemo kako ce dolaziti 5-10 hiljada ljudi ( 0.5 Mega CPC-ovaca) ??? Cu, Byte Pointer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:22:24 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: Prod. O-L ## Prodigy Trade Center ## http://www.engineering.tem.nhl.nl/~gorku400 ## ## In the Download area are two new live recordings ## - Lyrical Terrorist ## - Fuel my Fire ## ## To celebrate the new site, you can enter a nice competition where you ## can win a original copy of THE ANT FILES bootlet! ## Prodigy Underground '97 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:22:55 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: Vlada Flash :) ## From: Milos Gacanovic ## E da, ako se secas tu je i (vlada recimo) josh jedan dj pustio flash ;) vlada svakog puta najmanje po dva puta :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:23:01 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: GOA ## From: "Kozmik Communications" ## nema vokale. Slican fazon - nabudzen sinti sound i istocnajcki motivi ## i neko pijukanje koje lici na 303 al se iz aviona cuje da nije (isto ## sam cuo i u jednoj Tap 011 temi, ako pitate gde sam slusao Tap 011, na ## gajbi naravno)...jedino sto je garderoba malo drugacija i ribe imaju ## manje sise. ja GOA zvuk delim na seljacku gou (to sto si ti opisao) i kvalitetnu gou (xtreemly good) nema turkish muzike, ima i bleepbleep i 303 i deset melodija odjednom i rokanje u glavu i xtremni dozivljaj kad se slusa glasno sa 8 ohm slusalicama na glavi... ima i toga sto ti kazes, i to u velikom broju, pogotovu cetvrtkom od 12 na radio politici, ali ima i puno drugih stvari... ono sto izdvaja gou je melodicnost, a ne nabudzen sinti+narodnjacke melodije. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:23:04 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: equipa ## From: Bozo Krstajic ## ej bre? pa ko ce tu da dodje? sigurno nece ljudi koji slusaju ## alternativu ili neke tako non-diesel formacije.. Tu cifru ces dostici ## samo sa cistom dizelanijom. Razmisli malo. :) sada da... za jedno 3-4 godine... ko zna, mozda uspemo da napravimo serbian tribal gathering ili nesto slicno :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:23:14 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: zadnja shetnja uz zvuke pesme 'plastic dreams' + on-line bubnjeva sto ce reci plastic dreams live mix :) krenula je poslednja studentska shetnja . ipak su izabrali techno :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:23:19 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: Uk-Dance FWDs >Check out my web pages on www.sorted.org/london for an up-to-date >guide to what's happening in London for techno, trance and hard house >with line-ups. The smiley icon denotes an unmissable and and schwa one >means it's probably worth checking out. Please note these >recommendations are biased towards hard trance or funky/uplifting >techno and usually a really friendly, lively atmosphere. > >/-----------------------------------------\ >| Dale Walker dale@sorted.org | >| http://www.rave.co.uk/users/ge75/london | >| http://www.sorted.org/london | >\-----------------------------------------/ From: "Brian Rooney" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:20:53 GMT Picked up ther new Chris Lib. "Black Star Rising / Soul Mantra", 12" the other day on Prolekult. Hard Acid/Techno from the man, not as much 303 as their Stay Up Forever stuff, but it's still there in the background, swirling away... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:51:02 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: None > E a... ko ce da nas brani ? > Kada dodje onaj shto me je "gadjao" flashom, shta onda ? Eeee pa decko....sto se krucis kad ne znas da letis; onda sedi kuci i gledaj vj tehno ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:54:35 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: None Pohvaljujem ice.t-ja za ovu poruku. Kolosalan primer obogacivanja umetnickog, kulturnog i filozfskog sadrzaja na insomniji. Poruka sa "porukom": tehno svuda oko nas.Kad bi svi ovako....... zato, nek se procita jos jednom, jebes ogranicenje! > Bio u subotu u ind. Stigao tek oko 4 pred kraj Nasticevog seta. Zatekao samo > Saleta.svetskogmegacara kako se toliko gubi da mora da se pridrzava za onu > ogradu. Raspitivao se kod mene za najbolju banju u Srbiji. > Objasnjenje zasto sam dosao kasno: > jutro: navijanje za b92 na fudbalskom turniru. Urlanje sa QT bubnjarima. > Pivo-dva. Chujna promuklost. > Vece: Koncert Discipline kicme. Nastavak dranja. Gubitak glasa. Pivo-dva. > Sreo Gordana koji se zali na malu posecenost. Ja - Pa i nije bas malo ljudi. > On - Mnogo mi je hladno. U guzvi je toplije. > Kasno vece: Filia u G.Zdanovoj. Jeziva guzva. Tuca ispred. Patrola. A ubrzo i > racija. Police brutality. Zvizdanje. > Pred jutro: fudbal u parku princeva (za komuniste: pionirski park) praznom > flasom Guarane. > Jutro: Ind. Nemam ocenu, kratko sam bio. Nekoliko velikih dizela totalno > znojavih. > Prigovaram Nasti sto pije pivo. > Sve je ovo techno, cak iako na prvi pogled nije. Bravo Raso legendo! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:20:45 +0100 From: Marko Domanovic Subject: None > Pa ne znam, da li si bio u XL-u pre oko 2 nedelje (mislim da je bila > sreda) kad je radio experiment? Sto se tice ljudi bilo je prilicno jako. > 50% ekipe je bilo iz Industirije od pre 2-3 godine. Dizela ni jednog > nisam video, Goa je bila prilicno dobra (mada se ne slazem sa zutim > tripom DJ-a ;). zdravo... kolega :) bio je to sjajan party u XL-u... mada... kako je odmicao bio je sve ruznij i ruzniji... valjda pobegoh na vreme pa da ga ne okarakterisem ko bezveznog :) Pyc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:55:59 +0100 From: "Integra Productions" Subject: Eddy Airbow @ Belgrade Eddy Airbow je u Beogradu! Super je raspolozen, naravno kao i gotovo svaki strani DJ koji je dolazio u nasu lepu domovinu otkida na lepe beogradske zene, razbio se na rostilju kod Lokija i najavljuje zaista jako vece u Industriji (subota, 22.mart). Prema sadrzaju njegovog kofera lako je zakljuciti da je u pitanju jedan od najraznovrsnijih setova DJa koji su do sada gostovali u Beogradu. Naime, mozete ocekivati zvuk u rasponu od ranih radova Kraftwerka i Beltrama (sa Traxx rec.) preko Green Velvet-a, The Advent, CJ Bollanda, X-Trax, JB3, Emmanuel Top-a, Roberta Armanija, Secret Cinema, Vapour Space, Pump Panel, DJ Hella, Cari Lekebusha, Resistance D, XVX i radova Hardfloora do psychedelic zvuka tipa The Infinity Project, Doof ili Prana... May The Force Be With You! MW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:12:50 +0100 From: "Integra Productions" Subject: Re: None > Nesto se u poslednje vreme govori o goa zurci koja ce biti 12. aprila... > Za sada se, izgleda, zna da nece biti u Industriji (Kosutnjak ili Sajam), i > da organizuje Xperiment, i da ce doci neki stranac (nisam cuo ime). > > Zna li neko nesto vise? Ako zna, sto do sada nista nije napisao? O:) OK, ajde reci cu vam...dakle: 12, aprila u studiju 1 Avala Filma (isti prostor gde je bio Enlitement) se sprema Dragonfly records party u organizaciji (ako se ne varam da se zovu recimo nesto pa art..., nije Spaceart) + Xperiment-a. Dolaze DJ Jotti Sidhu i live act UX, sa naravno britanskog Dragonfly. Najavljuju se i VJi koji nece biti DK, vec ljudi koji autorski prave kompjutersku grafiku & animaciju, kao i nekih 38K zvuka... Dakle, videcemo sta ce od svega toga biti... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:01:35 +0100 From: "Integra Productions" Subject: Re: news, yeee :) > > Pa ja cu ti reci da u narednom periodu u nasoj organizaciji dolaze DJ > Toni > >Rios (Overdrive/Harthouse), DJ Pauli (Harthouse), DJ Good Groove > >(Harthouse), Julian Liberator (Stay Up Forever/Cluster), DJ Tonka (Force > >Inc.), Ian Pooley (Force Inc.)... > > koliko pouzdano ? mislim, cisto da ne odbrojavan dane dzabe :) a da ovde > ima lepih imena - ima :) u stvari, koliko su lepa, to je diskutabilno, ali > bitno je da se nama svidjaju :) Potpisani su ugovori, OK? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:07:59 +0100 From: "Integra Productions" Subject: Re: DJ Kragujevac > Ako se ne varam, jednom je i Integra dovodila > amerikanca Sajmona Skjopua, pa ste isto tako zaboravili > da kazete kako se covek odaziva i na ime Sima Sremcica... > O:) Priznajem, bilo je tako, ali zato likovi koji su tada bili tzv. operativni deo Integre vise ne postoje (a oni su izveli prevaru, kao sto sada svercuju brasno sa Republikom Srpskom)... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:05:33 +0100 From: "Integra Productions" Subject: Re: svi oni a njega nema... > > Pa ja cu ti reci da u narednom periodu u nasoj organizaciji dolaze DJ Toni > > Rios (Overdrive/Harthouse), DJ Pauli (Harthouse), DJ Good Groove > > (Harthouse), Julian Liberator (Stay Up Forever/Cluster), DJ Tonka (Force > > Inc.), Ian Pooley (Force Inc.)... > > A Laidback-Lukea vise nece biti? :( Sorry, zaboravio sam--i Laidback Luke! (Touche) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:17:29 +0100 From: Marko Domanovic Subject: None > pa imaju neke zajednicke osobine, ali daleko da se moze porediti. > Mislim, kad bi ti mogao negde recimo u IZraelu na nekoj goa zurci da > pustis domaci . . . drugo, po meni je goa - indija, a *urbo folk (gadno mi je i da napise) turska...:) Pyc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:47:04 -0800 From: Ivan Hrasovec Subject: Re: Divne police > Bilo bi pozeljno postaviti eye-checkera na vrata Industrije Jel to neko ko ti proverava vid ili proverava da li si DJ Eye, pa ako jesi on ili ako imas dobar vid mozes uci, a u suprotnom jok? O:) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 97 11:55:43 -0100 From: broker@dv.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: test1 test1 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 97 11:58:38 -0100 From: broker@dv.co.yu (Predrag Supurovic) Subject: hi Izgleda da ovo radi i da ti poruke lepo idu i na Prometheus i na Panon, kada stignu za bear@prometheus.dv.co.yu Proveri na oba mesta da li je ok. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:04 +0100 From: Milos Krstajic Subject: None >> From: "Kozmik Communications" >> secam se najava oko nove godine dj da vlada - koliko je on >> u stvari nemacki dj? Secam se da se nesto govorilo da ni ne zna srpski, >> ali opet je meni to nekako izgledalo bas kao muda za bubrege - ili bolje >> bubrege za muda :)) > Oi! > Moram da reagujem. > Ja sam izricito uvek u svim najavama na B92 NAGLASAVAO da je DJ Da Vlad iz > Nemacke ali da je ovde rodjen i da je jugovic. Imam svedoke za to i nikada > nismo isli naokoli i trubili da je Nemac. Da Vlad zivi u Nemackoj vec 15 > godina, vrlo lose prica srpski (razumemo se ali je smesno) i ove godine je > koliko znam bio prvi put u Bg-u posle 7-8 godina. Konacno, ako se malo > bolje prisetite, cena karte kada je on nastupao na Divajnu je bila ista kao > kad samo mi radimo - 5/10/15 din. Kada je 2. put svirao za Novu Godinu, > cena karte je bila izazvana Mark EG-om i raznim sranjima koje je on > napravio sa avionskom kartom, a ne Da Vladom koji je ionalo 2 nedelje pre > toga svirao u Industriji. znamznamznam. ovo je bilo pitanje iz radoznalosti, a ne nekakva provokacija. Ali isto znam da je i na reklami za divine bilo: gost - dj da vlad iz nemacke... cena jeste bila ista, ali je reklama reklama. Takodje, dobro se secam da je na flajeru za 0101 da vlad bio isto naglasen kao i mark eg, otprilike kao da su iste vrednosti - da se ne lazemo, tu nije bilo nikakve razlike... ko zna zna, a ko ne zna... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:07 +0100 From: Milos Krstajic Subject: None >> From: Milos Gacanovic > Pa to i rekoh... Mada tako je bilo u svim gradovima... narochito Londonu... > Ali mogli bi ipak to da rade dole, a ne u WC-u... > Tek zbog pristojnosti ;) zbog pristojnosti? mislis da podele sa jos nekim? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:14 +0100 From: Milos Krstajic Subject: None Zelim svim novim clanovima dobrodoslicu :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:17:55 +0100 From: Bojan Belovic Subject: domen > Nemoj da te pale. Registracija domena jeste besplatna, ali zato > setup servera za taj domen nije. A i posle ti naplacuju sav > transfer koji ide preko tog domena. ne, u ovom slucaju imamo i server i fizicke adrese i prostor, tj. direktan internet link. pitanje je samo da li se pored postojeceg imena moze napraviti jos jedno. znaci sada imas site www.xxx.co.yu, i hoces da na tom siteu dir npr. techno mozes da "dovabis" :) sa www.techno.yu (ili www.techno.co.yu, ako bas mora). Sima ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:02:48 +0100 From: Milos Krstajic Subject: None > OK, ajde reci cu vam...dakle: 12, aprila u studiju 1 Avala Filma (isti >prostor gde je bio Enlitement) se sprema Dragonfly records party u >organizaciji (ako se ne varam da se zovu recimo nesto pa art..., nije >Spaceart) + Xperiment-a. Dolaze DJ Jotti Sidhu i >live act UX, sa naravno britanskog Dragonfly. Najavljuju se i VJi koji nece >biti DK, vec ljudi koji autorski prave kompjutersku grafiku & animaciju, >kao i nekih 38K zvuka... > Dakle, videcemo sta ce od svega toga biti... aaaaaaa :) kako cica izvlaci informacije :) ima za ovo da se odbrojavaju dani :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:03:29 +0100 From: Milos Krstajic Subject: None > OK, ajde reci cu vam...dakle: 12, aprila u studiju 1 Avala Filma (isti >prostor gde je bio Enlitement) se sprema Dragonfly records party u >organizaciji (ako se ne varam da se zovu recimo nesto pa art..., nije >Spaceart) + Xperiment-a. Dolaze DJ Jotti Sidhu i >live act UX, sa naravno britanskog Dragonfly. Najavljuju se i VJi koji nece >biti DK, vec ljudi koji autorski prave kompjutersku grafiku & animaciju, >kao i nekih 38K zvuka... > Dakle, videcemo sta ce od svega toga biti... aaaaaaa :) kako cica (ja) izvlaci informacije :) ima za ovo da se odbrojavaju dani :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:03:19 +0300 From: Otashevich Urosh Subject: Re: None > uopste se ne bih slozio sa tobom. > btw, to sto se ovde rec goa vezuje iskljucivo za Kalicanina i tehnokratiju > je veoma tuzno. Pa pazi mislim mi smo slusali Gou mnogo pre fenomena i pojave DK i njegove brace ... jel ... otash ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:52:52 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: None > OK, ajde reci cu vam...dakle: 12, aprila u studiju 1 Avala Filma (isti > prostor gde je bio Enlitement) se sprema Dragonfly records party u > organizaciji (ako se ne varam da se zovu recimo nesto pa art..., nije > Spaceart) + Xperiment-a. Dolaze DJ Jotti Sidhu i > live act UX, sa naravno britanskog Dragonfly. Najavljuju se i VJi koji nece > biti DK, vec ljudi koji autorski prave kompjutersku grafiku & animaciju, > kao i nekih 38K zvuka... > Dakle, videcemo sta ce od svega toga biti... Bas me zanima tih 38K. 38000W u Jugoslaviji trenutno ima samo Studio Berar i to jedva. Koliko znam, za ozvucavanje ovog partyja je najavljen tzv Braca, poznati zivopisni lik beogradskih partija koji kad skupi sve krseve koje ima, ima tu negde oko 7-8 K. Njegov sound je bio u pecini kad je svirao Paul Jay ako se secate, bolje da ne. Bio sam na koncertu Discipline Kicme u Studiju 1; sa oko 30K zvuka bilo je vrlo tiho, i sa 1,500 ljudi toliko prazno kao kad u industriji ima 150 ljudi. Taj prostor ima 1,600 upotrebljivih kvadrata, dakle kapacitet mu je blizu 6,000 ljudi. Za toliko ljudi, norma je 50-60KW (realnih). Eto, zakljucite sami........ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:55:01 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: DJ Kragujevac > > Ako se ne varam, jednom je i Integra dovodila > > amerikanca Sajmona Skjopua, pa ste isto tako zaboravili > > da kazete kako se covek odaziva i na ime Sima Sremcica... > > O:) > Priznajem, bilo je tako, ali zato likovi koji su tada bili tzv. operativni > deo Integre vise ne postoje (a oni su izveli prevaru, kao sto sada svercuju > brasno sa Republikom Srpskom)... Nemoj tako, ja sam kupio PC od njih vrlo povoljno i kvalitetno, preporucujem . Ne bih bio ovde da nema njih :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:57:13 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: Vlada Flash :) > ## E da, ako se secas tu je i (vlada recimo) josh jedan dj pustio flash ;) > > vlada svakog puta najmanje po dva puta :) Mislim da se taj kuriozitet desio samo jednom. Ne preterujte. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:58:13 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: None > bio je to sjajan party u XL-u... mada... kako je odmicao bio je sve > ruznij i ruzniji... valjda pobegoh na vreme pa da ga ne okarakterisem > ko bezveznog :) Posto svi imate nebrojene primedbe na industriju, da cujem kako vam se dopada zvuk ili obezbedjenje u xl-u. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:12:31 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: do you see the light ## From: "Kozmik Communications" ## Svetlo je tragicno....mada da se ponovim, retki su techno klubovi gde je ## bitno bolje; ponegde ima mali laser i to je to. ma covece, kako ne shvatate da je svetlo vazno samo do granice da postoji strob i da ga ne bude mnogo... za celu industriju je dosta onaj strob el grande ako je dobra zurka, a ako je losa nece je izvuci ni 30Mw mining laser :) laseri su za vece zurke, van klubova... jedino sto je tragicno je sto ima mnooogo onih reflektorcica koji umeju bas da sjebu vibe ponekad :( ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:12:37 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: prodigy news ## Keith is going to play in a horror movie called "Horror Avenue" ## ## Madonna has approached the Prodigy to make a remix for her, but they ## refused the offer. Liam said" She maybe be our boss, but I'm not going ## to make a mix for Madonna!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:12:48 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: phasing & flanging evo jednog fwda sa iuk-dancea o nekim dj tehnikama...nadam se da ce nekome koristiti :) ----------------------------- From: Derek Williams Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:46:50 +0000 Subject: Techy stuff about flanging and phasing Hi peeps Bat an others have been going on about playing two records together and so creating phasing or flanging Christ, I havn`t done this for fuckin` yonks, it was popular in the days of pink floyd and before btw and it was a technique used to great effect on the single "Itchycoo park" which was all about tripping in the park whilst feeding the ducks. I digress. Flanging: So called because originally it was a studio technique which used two three head tape machines placed next to each other. The tape is laced from one machine through its recording heads and then through the second machines recording heads and then onto the take up reel of the second machine (they do have to be the same type of machine btw) What happens is the output from both machines is mixed together. Both machines record and then replay the same signal, albiet slightly delayed because of the distance between the heads (which is why you have to use two machines of the same type - so the delay is the same). Once its all settled down, the two outputs can be mixed together with little degredation to the sound. Now the operator touches the feed reel (hence "flanging") and slows the tape down a bit, resulting in the charictaristic effect. Now here comes the techy bit. Flanging is not the same as Phasing - here`s why: Flanging delays all of the sound from one of the componants by a fixed time (ie by slowing the tape or one of the discs) Therefore the interferance varies with the frequancy of the sound, some frequancies are put out of phase, some are in phase. Phasing on the other hand alters the phase angle of the sound waves so the effect is constant accross the frequancy spectrum. The two effects sound similar, but flanging is much nicer, especially if its done mechanically with records or tapes, rather than by using electronics. So, there you go - another gem of knowledge from me. Cuddles to people with ducks Derek - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LEGALISE CANNABIS! - it`s much more than just dope. http://www.foobar.co.uk/users/ukcia/groups/lc!home.html +++++ Election '97 +++++ Supporting Howard Marks standing in Norwich on the single issue of Cannabis legalisation. See http://www.foobar.co.uk/users/ukcia/groups/clcia.html Visit the whole UK Cannabis Internet Activist site http://www.foobar.co.uk/users/ukcia/ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:12:52 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: G.R.I.D. obnovljen hyperrealova global rave information database je obnovljena :) vise podataka u sledecem fwdu ... From: Hank Hughes Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:50:43 -0500 Subject: Global Rave Information Database (version II) ... At the vernal equinox, the new GRID on hyperreal.com was dropped into place. Weee-haw! So what's new? 1. Added More Categories: Besides Weekly and Special Events, there are now categories for Home Pages, Radio Stations, Clubs, Info Lines, and Stores. 2. Calendar modes: There are two calender modes for viewing events. The "Calendar" mode displays a few months with events listed in the appropriate day. The "Event List" is a top down list of events that include geographic information like Town, State/Province, and Country. 3. Expand Coverage Globally: We tried to make expansion for more Regions a lot easier. As a result, when an area "deserves" it's own section, it can be done. For instance, I'd like to see the "Europe" section evolve into "France", "Germany", etc ... 4. Provide ROM service: The ROM is a historical acronym for "Rave-O-Matic". Some lists have a person or group of people organize a weekly mail that lists all the upcoming events. Well, since the GRID collects announcements from the public, why not aid in ROM development. 5. [Technical] Separated Editing and Viewing Functionanility: Viewing GRID items required a CGI-script to fetch data and format output at you. Now, the site is less "virtual". Essentially, there are "physical" pages to read now, rather than wait for PERL to spit text at you. Note: For areas under attack by media and police actions ... One last thing, if your information is considered "underground" or your area has come upon a period of "Raver Inquisition", then perhaps you don't want to list that particlar event here. Recently, more and more negative media has surfaced about the Rave Culture. Labeling us as drug addicted deviants is something we'd like to shed, but like most any type of party, albeit a college fraternity or a big business merger celebration, drugs tend to appear. So, please consider what repercussions could occur. You never know where Big Brother is watching but Hyperreal.com is a fairly good magnet for his surveillance drones. We at Hyperreal.com want to help the Rave Culture communicate and flourish but we'd also like to prevent becoming a surveillance device for troubled regions. Just give it a thought. Enjoy, -Eric and Hank ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:12:54 +0100 From: Gojko Adzic Subject: History of Cyberspace Pishem istoriju srpskog techno cyberspacea, pa bi bilo lepo da ako neko zna da sledece podatke : (1) datum osnivanja grupe active (2) datum osnivanja grupe fusion (1.02.96 ?) ako se neko seca otprilike vremena kada je insomnia radila na opennetu kao onaj fusion alias, bachajte vamo... dalje, uskoro posle mog dolaska na sezam je otvorena tema techno. da li neko zna bar malo podataka o vremenu pre toga, o tome kako je uopste i otvorena tema techno i kakva je bila situacija sa grupama na sezamu pre toga? svi ostali podatci su vrlo dobrodosli, npr. datum kada je kozmik e-mail poceo sa radom, ili bar mesec, isto vazi i za integra e-mail, i za ostale e-mailove koji su vezani... u principu, ako znate bilo koji vazan datum, samo rokajte ovde ili meni na mail :) p.s. da, pojavice se na utterliju, zato i radim :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:09:23 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: drama > u kom smislu drama? > a sto se tice promocije, pa zar vam nisu dovoljni flyere koje cete da > podelite u industriji i malo reqlame po vasim radijima i recimu na 'u > trendu' to je bash cool emisija :) Pa, iskustvo pokazuje da postoje odredjene "sive" zone u toku godine kada malo sta pomaze; nekad mozes da izdelis i 5.000 flyera pa da imas samo 300 ljudi. Za Garnijeov nastup u Industriji (25. maj 96) je prodato svega 560 karata zato sto je u pitanju bio kraj maja. Necu da pominjem nas party sa Philom Perryjem, 18.maj 1996 na kome je prodato svega 300 karata, nas minimalni rekord (nismo pukli nekom srecom, steta sto vise ljudi nije culo coveka jer je bio super, po meni). U prolece ljude zanimaju zurke na bizarnim mestima - balon, secerana i slicno; problem je samo sto je to danas prakticno nemoguce ili zahteva toliko rizika i maltretiranja da je besmisleno. Hteo sam samo jos nesto da vam kazem po pitanju industrije. Uz razumevanje za mnoge prigovore na racun kluba, morate biti svesni jedne cinjenice. Da nije bilo industrije, broj stranaca koji bi se godisnje pojavljivao u bg-u ne bi prelazio 5 (u poslednjih 12 meseci je tu negde oko 20). Industria je jedino mesto gde ti je granica za pokrivanje izmedju 300 i 400 karata, u zavisnosti od toga koga dovodis. Kada smo radili u domu omladine, ta granica je bila x2, oko 700 karata. Toliko je bilo moguce dovuci na pocetku, kada je bilo puno ljudi kojima je tehno bio nesto novo, ali je definitvno nemoguce danas, narocito sa tempom od 2 strane zabave mesecno. Dakle, odlucite: hocete ventilaciju ili hocete 2 velike zurke sa strancima mesecno. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:13:19 +0100 From: "Kozmik Communications" Subject: Re: Re:goa > >naravno)...jedino sto je garderoba malo drugacija i ribe imaju manje sise. > > koje ribe? Pa ove fluo/metalik goa rejverke i recimo Jelena Karleusa u srebrnom cyber kombinezonu sa otvorom za sise (pojacano mega-brusom). Ne mislim da one bolidese koje pale indijske stapice (to je inace do jaja fora u industriji - da izumre goa bagra). Goa Goa Gone!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:28:57 +0100 From: Nenad Rogic Subject: Re: INSOMNIA Digest > Poseti http://www.komgrap.co.yu/utterly/ Kada ovo radi? Par puta sam probao, ali javlja samo The remote site or server may be down. Please try again soon. poz, Nenad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:01:33 +0100 (GMT) From: Nikola Soljaga Subject: Propast > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:38:09 +0100 > From: Nikola Andric > Subject: None > > >>Dakle, gerila, organizacija,solidarnost, Tupak Amaru; na sledecu yugo@ > >>zabavu svi ispred Industrije pa maltretirajte magarce koji idu unutra. Ko > >>na kontra-mitingu 24.12. 1996. Ponesite usmrdela jaja, napravite neku > >>diverziju (bez zrtava, vise kao hepening). Naprimer, neka udje vas 50 (ali > >>prethodno da se najedete recimo pasulja) i onda neka svi prde par sati oko > >>dj kabine ili tako nesto. Ili izvadite tuki i pisajte na dizelasice koje > >>otkidaju na najzesci goa i esid. Ozbiljan sam. Nabavicu vam free karte. > > PRISTAJEM > > Ledeni > > ps je l ovo shum? Kad procitam ovakve gluposti (tj. totalne debilnosti), pomislim da DK i nije najgore sto se moze dogoditi Techno sceni. ps. Stvarno ode sve u qrac!!! Shox. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:05:18 +0100 From: Marko Domanovic Subject: None >> organizaciji (ako se ne varam da se zovu recimo nesto pa art..., nije >> Spaceart) + Xperiment-a. Dolaze DJ Jotti Sidhu i au, Psychaos... ima da bude.... slurp slurp. :) Pyc ------------------------------ End of INSOMNIA Digest ********************************************** +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ insomnia@dv.co.yu, mail list +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+